Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:54): I understand that information is made available through the reporting by the relevant state or territory or the Federal Police—so that information is publicly available. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator GALLAGHER: Well, it's publicly available, so go and find it. I'm not here to do your homework for you. I'm not here to do your homework. The government's job is to put in place the arrangements that keep the community safe. The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Senator Hume? Senator Hume: We're happy to wait until you google it, Minister. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hume! Minister Gallagher. Senator GALLAGHER: Well, google yourself. Honestly! Senator McGrath: Wow! So mature! Senator GALLAGHER: Come on, Senator McGrath! The issue you raise around the management of the NZYQ case is a serious one, which is why the government has taken it so seriously. That's why the work is being done. That's why, when there is an offence— The PRESIDENT: Minister Gallagher, please resume your seat. Senator Hume? Senator Hume: Point of order on relevance. I didn't ask about the management; I just asked about the number. The PRESIDENT: The minister is being directly relevant to that part of your question, Senator Hume. Senator Birmingham? Senator Birmingham: It was a very precise question in relation to the number. If the minister, for some unknown reason, doesn't have the number in her briefing folders, or if Minister Watt doesn't have it in his, or if they're unwilling for some reason to turn to the relevant page and reveal it, the least the minister can do is take it on notice so the Senate eventually receives the actual answer—rather than telling people to go and google it, when I'm pretty confident you won't find it if you just google it. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Birmingham. As you know, I cannot direct the words that the minister uses to answer questions. The minister has answered that part of the question. It may not have been the answer you were seeking, but she has answered it. Minister, please continue. Senator Birmingham: The minister has refused to answer it. Senator GALLAGHER: No, I haven't refused to answer it. I have answered it. That information is made public through the relevant law enforcement agencies. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hume, first supplementary? Senator Birmingham interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Birmingham! You've got one of your own senators on her feet. I've called her to ask her question. Senator Ruston interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston—equally! Senator Hume.