Senator VAN (Victoria) (14:42): Thank you, Minister, but I would guarantee I've met more miners than you have in your lifetime. Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Order! Senator VAN: In the light of— Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Order! Order! Senator Van, I think we— Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! We need to start the clock again, and we are wasting time here because I have called people to order and you continue to be disorderly. Minister—or Senator Van, please start the question again. Senator VAN: Thank you for the promotion! In light of the concerns about increased labour costs and economic uncertainty, can the minister explain the rationale behind the same job, same pay policy approach, especially considering Australia's position as a major mining nation with already-high labour costs?