Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:11): I thank Senator Urquhart for the supplementary. Michael Long's walk is indeed an example of listening and engaging and it is one we can all learn from. By listening to the Voice we can make decisions that genuinely reflect the needs and aspirations of Indigenous Australians. There is no doubt that we will make better decisions when we listen, and the outcomes are better when those directly affected can have a say. Listening to the advice of the Voice will help inform decisions about funding, where they will have the most impact and deliver better outcomes in those key areas. We know that ensuring Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people have a say on the matters that affect communities will deliver better value for money. Governments from both sides have invested billions in programs that haven't delivered the outcomes or worked for local communities. A Voice will help us listen to locals and ensure that money is invested in those areas that will drive better outcomes. By incorporating the Voice into our decision-making processes, we're not only improving programs or policies but are fostering a more inclusive, respectful and United Australia. The PRESIDENT: Senator Urquhart, a second supplementary?