Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:56): I thank Senator Chandler for her question. You're correct, I was asked about this issue on Radio National last week, by that very good journalist Patricia Karvelas. Who wanted— Senator McKenzie: Shout-out, PK! Senator FARRELL: Yes, shout-out to her. She asked me that very same question, President, and this is the answer I gave: Look, I can't say that I specifically had a conversation with her, but I'm aware that her department made it clear that they were, you know, dealing with this issue and going to make a decision about it. I note that Minister King was in fact asked this question in question time in the other place today. She said very clearly, 'I consulted with relevant colleagues as to the normal proper process.' But can I make it very clear— Senator McKenzie: He consulted, Don. Senator FARRELL: Senator McKenzie, it was Minister McCormack who made the very, very same decision that Minister King has made. This is what Minister King said, 'Can I make it very, very clear yet again that the decision'— Senator Birmingham: A point of order on direct relevance: the minister has already killed a lot of the time by repeating the same quotes that Senator Chandler had in her question. The question was: was he consulted? Does he have any knowledge of whether in fact somebody had a conversation with him or not? The PRESIDENT: Senator Birmingham, the minister was referring to the first part of the question. I will draw the minister to the second part of the question. Senator FARRELL: I made my position very clear on Radio National. I said: … I can't say that I specifically had a conversation with her, but I'm aware that her department made it clear— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Chandler, a first supplementary?