Senator W ATT (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister for Emergency Management) (14:16): Again, Senator Paterson, I don't think you can seriously expect that we're going to be putting into the public domain the sort of information that you're seeking there as to the number of businesses that are affected. These are obviously very sensitive matters. The PRESIDENT: Minister Watt, please resume your seat. Senator Paterson? Senator Paterson: On a point of order, the government was able to share these sorts of numbers in relation Optus and Medibank attacks— The PRESIDENT: Senator Paterson, that's not a point of order; it's a debating point. Minister Watt, please continue. Senator WATT: Senator Paterson, I'd be interested to go back and see who actually provided what information in relation to those data breaches, because I certainly recall that, in a number of instances, it was the companies themselves who decided to put that kind of information into the public domain. The other part of your question was whether affected individuals or organisations have been notified. In my previous answer, I made the point that HWL Ebsworth has begun notifying impacted clients regarding their information identified as compromised as part of this breach. But this process does remain ongoing. It will take time to complete due to the scale of the impacted data, but the government takes this seriously and is continuing to work with HWL Ebsworth. The PRESIDENT: Senator Paterson, second supplementary?