Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:32): The Prime Minister and the government have made his and its views clear about why the Voice matters. As was discussed in great detail and at great length on Friday evening and Friday night and the early hours of Saturday morning, the Voice is about two things. It's about recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in our Constitution and it's about listening to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people on matters that affect them. We've been clear about the principles associated with that. It does ensure that the Voice will give independent advice to the parliament and the government. The minister representing has gone through the principles, which I can read out again and I think were read out on many occasions in the committee stage and elsewhere in the debate. I would make the point, Senator Hanson, that I understand what your position is. I thought it was made very clear this morning. I disagree with it, but— The PRESIDENT: Minister Wong, please resume your seat. Senator Hanson? Senator Hanson: A point of order about relevance to my question. Does the Prime Minister endorse Mr Mayo's comment that the power of the Voice is its ability to punish elected members of parliament that ignore its advice? It's a direct question. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Hanson. The minister is being direct to your question. Senator WONG: What I was trying to say, Senator Hanson, is: I understand the position you have, which is to oppose. I take a different view, as do the senators on this side. The Prime Minister's position is the position that has been outlined by the government minister responding in the Senate, over and over again. We've gone into great detail about how the Voice will operate and the fact that it will not have a veto power and will not have a program delivery function. Others can choose to articulate this how they wish. The government will choose to articulate our view about how the Voice will work. The advice will be independent, and it will be chosen by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. It will be representative. It will be empowering, community led, inclusive, respectful and culturally informed. It will be accountable and transparent. It will work alongside existing structures, and it will not have a veto power. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson, a first supplementary?