Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister for Emergency Management) (14:38): Thank you, Senator Tyrrell. I am aware that this has been a longstanding issue, and I recognise the advocacy that you have undertaken on this, along with a number of Labor senators, I must say, to ensure that the community of Burnie in the north-west of Tasmania receives the services it needs. Senator Scarr: What about us? Senator WATT: I'll take the interjection from Senator Scarr. The reason we are having this discussion is that it wasn't fixed under the previous government during the 10 years that they were in government. So any time you want to ask that, feel free. But this is a serious matter, Senator Tyrrell. People deserve proper access to family and circuit court services no matter where they live. I will undertake to provide you with some information about that, but I'm sure you're aware of the efforts that the Attorney-General in particular has undertaken to boost Family Court access for all Australians no matter where they live. We remember that under the former government not only did Burnie and the north-west of Tasmania not have those services, but in fact it was the former government that abolished the Family Court. That's how little they cared for the Family Court, whether it was in Burnie or anywhere else. And it would appear they're unrepentant of their action to abolish the Family Court. And it has been proven that this action has created worse outcomes for Australians. We, of course, recognise that the Family Court does need improvements and did need improvements, but the solution to that was not to abolish the court in its entirety, which was exactly what the former government did. Senator Scarr: It was a merger! Senator WATT: You can dress it up however you want, but you abolished the Family Court. That came at the expense, in particular, of women and children fleeing domestic violence who needed the services, the specialist services, that were able to be obtained through the Family Court. But as I said, Senator Tyrrell, I'll come back to you with the precise information that you're seeking. The PRESIDENT: Senator Tyrrell, first supplementary?