Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:07): I refer to my answers yesterday about this, and I again say that I did not know the full details of Ms Higgins allegations until she chose to tell her story in reports published on Monday 15 February. Also, to the best of my memory, I did not know her identity until after these reports. I had no contact with her, her partner or her supports. The PRESIDENT: Senator Birmingham? Senator Birmingham: President, I have a point of order on direct relevance. Yesterday, questions were asked, which the minister responded to, about the breadth of her knowledge or when she received information. Today, this is a very specific question that goes specifically to when she learned that the allegations would be revealed in the media. I ask the minister to be directly relevant to that question, which I repeated twice: to be very clear and specific about when she learned the allegations would be revealed in the media. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Birmingham. I believe the minister is being directly relevant to the question. I will invite her to continue, and I will continue to listen to her answer. Senator WONG: What I would say is that there are those on the other side who knew a lot more a lot earlier. The question is— Senator Cash interjecting — Senator Ruston interjecting — Senator WONG: I will take the interjection: 'It's not about us; it's about you'. The former Attorney-General has really been very clear about this: it's not about us, it's about you. That's what it is all about from those on that side. It's not about Ms Higgins. It's not about women who are watching— Senator Ruston interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! On my left! Senator Ruston, I have just called the chamber to order and you have completely disrespected that request. Your constant interjections are disorderly. I am asking you to stop it.