Senat or GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:40): The point I'm making is about ongoing programs that are clearly going to continue. There is a place— Opposition senators interjecting— Senator GALLAGHER: I'm answering the question that Senator Reynolds asked. There is a place for time-limited measures in a budget. For example, if there's a need to fund something— The PRESIDENT: Senator Reynolds on a point of order? Senator Reynolds: Could I just ask— The PRESIDENT: Senator Reynolds, resume you seat. Minister, please continue. Senator GALLAGHER: Those opposite will have to wait to see the budget, but I can tell you that they will see a budget where responsible decisions are being made about programs that are ongoing, where they've been underfunded, where they've been neglected, where they're being used as a way of propping up a budget to pretend that those costs aren't coming. You will see the government working carefully to deal with those. They are a significant pressure on the budget, and they will contribute to significant expenditure in fixing them up.