Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:37): Thank you to the senator for the question. I regret to admit that I may not have read every report in The Australian recently. I find it often better to be selective about what I read. But I would make this point: what we saw under the last nine years in the electricity sector was I think four gigawatts of dispatchable power exit the system and only one gigawatt come in. We saw decisions made by the market. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cadell, on a point of order? Senator Cadell: On relevance. This is about a specific government report. The PRESIDENT: Your question was extremely wide-ranging, and it also referred to a report in The Australian— An honourable senator interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! It's not a debating point. You also referred to a report in The Australian and asked the minister to comment that. Senator WONG: I was simply making the point that there have already been closures and the market refusing to invest in coal-fired power because of the lack of policy certainty. I appreciate the tone with which the senator asked the question so I'll try not to divert into the response which talks about the last nine years. I would make the point that we do believe providing the market with certainty around transition is important. That is the lowest cost way for this transition to occur. Those on this side actually think that you try to get the market to work rather than having taxpayers' funds prop up coal fired power, which was the position that some on the other side argued. I've been upfront with you, Senator. I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the actual article in question and whether it refers to a— Senator McKenzie interjecting— Senator WONG: I don't read every article in the Australian, Senator McKenzie; I apologise! It's just not the first priority in terms of reading. But, anyway, that's okay. But I will endeavour to see if the report— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Cadell, a first supplementary?