Senator LAMBIE (Tasmania) (14:47): My question is for the Minister for Emergency Management, Minister Watt. Minister, you said this week that you're talking to the defence minister about the need for a stand-by emergency response workforce to clean up after the fires and floods across the country. I am with you on that, but I can assure you we are flying by the seat of our pants when it comes to a national emergency response in this country to deal with national disasters. I'm just wondering what, exactly, you've been speaking to the defence minister about?