Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:16): All I'd add to the previous answer I've given is that Labor is about getting more doctors—providing more doctors to more communities so they can see more patients more cheaply. That is what we are trying to do. After nine years of neglect under the previous government undermining Medicare every single opportunity they could— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: I'm waiting again. Please, Minister, continue. Senator GALLAGHER: We are about making Medicare more accessible to more people and supporting the work of general practice, so I think the slant that the shadow minister is putting on it is unfair. Our commitments are about getting more doctors into primary care, and when we've got them into primary care, supporting them with the work that they do. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston? Senator Duniam interjecting— S enator Ruston: Am I getting a point of order or the second supplementary? The PRESIDENT: Sorry. I couldn't hear you because Senator Duniam is busy interjecting to Senator Watt across the chamber. Senator Duniam, you have your own manager on her feet. Senator Duniam: My apologies. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong! Senator Scarr: Who's running the joint? The PRESIDENT: Good question, Senator Scarr. Order! Let's clear the slate and I'm calling you, Senator Ruston, for your second supplementary.