Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:55): I thank the senator for the question. The Labor government went to the last election with a plan known as the Powering Australia plan. That involves setting up rewiring Australia, which is a fund— Senator Rennick interjecting— Senator GALLAGHER: Well, we have to modernise the grid. I won't interject to Senator Rennick, but, in case he hadn't noticed, we need to work out how to get more renewables into the grid so we that can lower power prices, something that you guys failed to do over years and years. We need to grab the opportunities that are going to come with modernising the electricity grid so that it can take in more renewables—good for lowering our emissions and lowering power prices. Honourable senators interjecting— Senator GALLAGHER: The cheapest energy is renewable energy, and we can't get it into the grid because you guys did nothing. So that is what we'll do. (Time expired) Senator Carol Brown interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Brown. I'll call all senators to order. This is Senator Babet's first set of questions. He has the right to ask them in silence and hear the answers in silence. Second supplementary, Senator Babet?