Senator COLBECK (Tasmania—Minister for Sport and Minister for Senior Australians and Aged Care Services) (14:47): I completely reject the premise of the question, in the context that the Prime Minister said that it wasn't a shadow workforce, it isn't a shadow workforce and we still say it's not a shadow workforce. The measure that we introduced yesterday was a targeted approach to support particular facilities that are at significant levels of stress with respect to workforce. That's what we're doing. We are not providing a shadow workforce, as that lot over there dishonestly try to imply. That's not what we're doing. Yes, unfortunately, over the course of the pandemic— The PRESIDENT: Minister, resume your seat. Senator Ayres on a point of order? Senator Ayres: The point of order is on relevance. The question was very direct: over the course of the 26 days, how many older Australians died in the residential aged-care system for which the minister is responsible? The PRESIDENT: The minister directly addressed your question at the start of his answer. I believe his answer has been directly relevant to the question. The minister has 18 seconds remaining. Minister, I am listening to the remainder of your answer. You have the call. Senator COLBECK: I haven't done a calculation based on who died on what day and who died on another day. As I told the Senate committee last week, there is actually a lag in the data. Unfortunately, there is a lag in the data, and that's been demonstrated by some jumps in figures over the period of time. But we continue to work closely with the sector in support of them through the pandemic. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Ayres, a second supplementary question?