Senator COLBECK (Tasmania—Minister for Sport and Minister for Senior Australians and Aged Care Services) (14:00): I thank the senator for the question and attempting to answer it for me! I'm not here to play word games. The aged-care sector is suffering extreme difficulty because of COVID-19, particularly the omicron strain at the moment. There's been significant commentary with respect to the state of the sector over the last week since Senate estimates last week, and, yes, Senator, the Prime Minister made his statements and views known as well. My focus is to work to support the sector to help them get through the current situation. It is extremely difficult, and the work that I've been doing all through the pandemic—and let's remember, we are in a global pandemic here—is to work with the sector to assist them to get through the current situation. Senator Watt interjecting— Senator COLBECK: The ANMF—to take up the interjection from Senator Watt—described it as a crisis in 2012 when you were in government, so let's take that— Senator Gallagher interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator COLBECK: Some of us remember that. And we were the ones that had the courage to call a royal commission, no matter how difficult that might have been for us as a government, and we were the ones who responded comprehensively to the royal commission. And the only response we've had from the Labor Party and Mr Albanese is: 'We'll spend more than the other lot.' Twelve months after the royal commission reported, and that's all we've got from Labor: 'We'll spend more than them.' We have committed over $18 billion to reform this sector. We've commenced the process of reforming and legislating the reform through this government, so we're not interested in word games. We know how tough it is in the sector now—right now—and we're doing everything that we possibly can to assist the sector to work their way through this extremely difficult environment. The PRESIDENT: Senator Gallagher, a supplementary question?