Senator SESELJA (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for International Development and the Pacific) (14:34): Again, going to the detail of that policy, I'm happy to take some of that on notice. There is no doubt that, when it comes to delivering on these policies, we have made it very, very clear over a period of time that wind, solar and renewables—of course, we have record investment in renewables in Australia at the moment—are very important. But you do need to ensure that you have baseload capacity to ensure that we don't see the kind of situation that we saw under the former Labor government in South Australia, where the lights were going out and electricity was not being delivered. Senator Wong interjecting— Senator SESELJA: Thank you for the interjection, Senator Wong. It is true that the only statewide blackout that I'm aware of in recent times did happen in South Australia, under the watch of the South Australian Labor government. But, when it comes to actual investment in energy, it is absolutely important—and I'll just state it again. I've run out of time. I might do it on the next supp. The PRESIDENT: Senator Roberts, a final supplementary question?