Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Women) (14:49): I thank Senator Ayres for drawing my attention to schedule 3, part 5, clause 19 of the legislation. I don't have that particular part of the legislation with me. But what I can confirm is that those opposite are running a campaign against this bill. They are running a campaign against a bill which is about adapting our successful JobKeeper flexibilities and which is about reforms that will allow employers and employees in sectors to work together and enable employers to have more flexible arrangements. Those decisions are ones which the government has made in broad consultation—many of those consultations were held last year by the Minister for Industrial Relations—but those opposite are completely opposed to any engagement on those grounds. We reject that premise. The government's plan is clear, and the government's plan is founded in a strong confidence in Australia's future— The PRESIDENT: Senator Payne, I will give you an opportunity to conclude, but I have Senator Ayres on a point of order. Senator Ayres: The point of order is relevance. The question was very straightforward. I understand the minister doesn't have her own industrial relations legislation in front of her, but the question was: 'Does the provision allow for a wage cut?' The PRESIDENT: Not having it in front of me either, Senator Ayres, I think the minister, from my hearing of her answer, was talking about that issue and issues that I would consider directly relevant to it. I think the minister had five seconds left in which to continue. I've allowed you to restate the specific nature of your question—oh, the minister has nothing else to add. Senator Ayres, a supplementary question?