Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Deputy Opposition Whip in the Senate) (14:00): My question is to the Minister for Families and Social Services, Senator Ruston. The Australian Securities and Investments Commission, ASIC, has advised that the ASIC Act 2001 prohibits a credit or debit card being sent to another person. I quote ASIC's advice: A person must not send another person … a credit card or a debit card. What does this prohibition mean for the Morrison government's proposed rollout of the cashless debit card in the Northern Territory?