Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Women) (14:04): I absolutely reject the premise of Senator Pratt's question, and in fact— Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Wong! Senator Cormann, a point of order? Senator Cormann: Senator Wong doesn't even try to comply with standing orders. Interjections are disorderly. Please call her to order. The PRESIDENT: I was doing so at that point and I'm going to reinstate my request that senators who are called to order at least count to 10 before they commence breaching standing orders again. Senator Payne to continue. Senator PAYNE: As I said, I absolutely reject the premise of Senator Pratt's question. What has been made clear by ministers, by the Treasurer, by the finance minister, by the Prime Minister and by me is that we absolutely recognise it is critical that, in the recovery process, we draw on the capabilities of the entire nation—men, women; women, men—to ensure the fastest possible economic and social recovery. The PRESIDENT: Senator Pratt, a final supplementary question?