Senator REYNOLDS (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:54): I think I have already in this question time comprehensively gone through what our policy is in relation to the Future Submarine project and Australian industry, and in terms of what stage we are at. Can I remind the senator that we are in the early design phase and we are two years away from— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong, on a point of order. Senator Wong: My point of order is direct relevance. This is a direct quotation from the minister's junior minister which is making an assertion about local content. We have asked the minister why Alliance Francaise is included as being one of the companies that the government has counted for local content. We haven't asked about policy; we've asked a very specific question about what is included in local content. The PRESIDENT: I'm listening carefully to the minister's answer. You've reminded her of the nature of the question. She can also respond to the quotation of the minister. But she has been speaking for only 20 seconds, and I'll call the minister to continue. Senator REYNOLDS: Senator Wong or the senator who asked the question might not understand the importance of this phase of the project; however, it is incredibly important. We are still in the early design phase. As I said in a previous answer, through Naval Group, that money is going back into the local communities. In the cases you cited, they are South Australian companies that employ Australians. So whether they are a service provider or a construction or a manufacturing company, they are Australian companies employing Australian people—and, unlike you opposite, we think that is a very good thing. The PRESIDENT: Senator Farrell, a supplementary question?