Senator REYNOLDS (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:01): First of all, nowhere in the contract is a 90 per cent figure mentioned. Senator Wong: So Chris was lying? Senator REYNOLDS: Of course he wasn't. Of course he was not. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Reynolds will continue when there's silence. Senator REYNOLDS: As I've said, I welcomed the commitment for 60 per cent, but it is very important to remember the stage that this project is up to. The project is still in the design phase. Even in the design phase, we've had many expressions of interest. We've had 1,500 expressions of interest, and several thousand companies are looking to work with Naval Group. However, as those opposite would know, when you are designing your house or any other property, if you are still in the design phase you do not go out and get commitments and contracts to deliver supplies before you actually know what you want. At the moment, we are in the design phase of this project. Naval Group will start going out and looking at contracts in 2023. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Marielle Smith, a final supplementary question?