Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Women) (14:52): I think the most important thing that the Prime Minister was referring to is exactly what I just said. As the speech says, we need to have institutions and we need to have an approach to globalism that facilitates, aligns and engages rather than directs and centralises. I don't think that is a provocative statement to make. I think it is a considered statement by a Prime Minister who is taking a serious engagement in matters of international relations and foreign affairs. Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I think Senator Payne has concluded her answer, Senator Wong. Senator Wong: Without answering the question. The PRESIDENT: Senator Payne has concluded.