Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister for Employment, Skills, Small and Family Business) (14:23): In responding to Senator Chandler yesterday, one of the issues I did point out to her was why we have had to rebuild the TAFE system, the skills system et cetera—the apprentice system—in Australia. And, again, it is a direct result of the failures by those opposite when they were last in government. As Senator Payne articulated to the chamber, those on the other side left a legacy that comprehensively ripped the guts out of vocational education and training in Australia. In fact, I believe Senator Wong actually sat around the cabinet table when decisions were made to gut over $1.2 billion from employer incentives over just two years. We are committed to vocational education and training in Australia, and— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Cash. Senator Polley, a final supplementary question?