Ms GILLARD (Lalor—Prime Minister) (14:05): I refer the Leader of the Opposition to the budget estimates. I refer him to the estimates in the budget in the Mid-Year Economic and Fiscal Outlook. Opposition members interjecting— Ms GILLARD: I would think it is not appropriate for those opposite to be starting to interject on that statement. We know they always want to insult a public servant when it comes to these debates. But I would refer the Leader of the Opposition to those documents. Mr Pyne interjecting— The SPEAKER: The Manager of Opposition Business is warned. Ms GILLARD: In those documents, forecasts are prepared by the same professional public servants who assisted the Howard government and who should not have abuse heaped on their heads. I refer the Leader of the Opposition to those estimates and to the underperformance of revenue against those estimates. If he has a strategy to cut in order to meet that shortfall in revenue between what was projected and what has been received then he should detail it: tell people where the health cuts are going, tell them where the education cuts are going— Mr Abbott: Speaker, a point of order: I asked a very simple, straightforward question, without any criticism of the government, and under the direct relevance rule the Prime Minister should simply, clearly and— Government members interjecting— The SPEAKER: I am not needing the assistance, thank you. The Prime Minister has the call. Ms GILLARD: The Leader of the Opposition should have the decency to tell people where the cuts will fall, how many people will lose their jobs—how many thousands of them, how many tens of thousands of them will lose their jobs—because apparently the economic policy of the Leader of the Opposition is to match the downgrades in the revenue being received by government with cuts. Well, who is going to get hurt? Australian families have a right to know. Who is going to lose their jobs? Australian workers have a right to know. Get up and detail that.