Senator SIEWERT (Western Australia—Australian Greens Whip) (14:42): Through you, President, to the minister: Minister, have you or the government, the Liberal Party, had any discussions with the National Party about their proposal to link an increase to Newstart to the cashless debit card or income management? Can you categorically rule out that any increase that you may, in your heart, decide to give will not be linked to the cashless debit card?