Senator KENEALLY (New South Wales) (14:26): The L-plate minister, as her colleagues are now calling her, in her now-infamous interview said of the now-infamous restaurant incident: 'I am deeply, deeply wounded by this.' Did Senator Fierravanti-Wells apologise to the minister for causing this hurt? The PRESIDENT: On a point of order, Senator Cormann? Senator Cormann: Point of order: I'm sure it is against standing orders to audition for the leadership during question time! The PRESIDENT: On the point of order: if that was the case, I doubt it's the first time it's happened! Senator Fifield.