Senator DI NATALE (Victoria—Leader of the Australian Greens) (14:20): Minister, let me tell you what you've defeated. You defeated Australia's economy growing by 4.7 per cent, which it did during the carbon price. Emissions went down 8.1 per cent during the carbon price. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! For those who interject because they don't like questions, all they're going to succeed in doing is hearing them again so that I can hear them. Senator DI NATALE: Minister, given that you defeated economic growth and you defeated pollution reduction by voting to defeat the carbon price, why won't you drag your climate-denying colleagues— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator O'Sullivan and Carr, there is no need to get so excited. Senator Watt interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Watt! Senator Di Natale, please commence your question from the 'why' that I heard. Senator DI NATALE: How much time do I have? The PRESIDENT: I'll let the clock run because of the interference. Senator DI NATALE: Minister, why did you defeat economic growth and pollution reduction? Do you accept that the same pattern has occurred in places like California and Europe? When will you finally drag your climate-denying colleagues into the 21st century and adopt a real climate policy?