Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance and the Public Service, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:51): As I've indicated to the chamber before when I have addressed these questions, Senator Payne, as the foreign minister, has had very positive and constructive discussions with her counterpart. I'm not aware— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Cormann! Senator Wong, on a point of order? Senator Wong: Direct relevance. I understand the leader of the government was seeking to get a brief as the question was being asked, but the question actually goes to the leaking of an ASIO document, which has been reported in the papers. The PRESIDENT: I note that the minister has been speaking for 22 seconds. You've reminded him of the nature of the question. The minister has one minute and 38 seconds remaining to answer. Senator Cormann. Senator CORMANN: My advice is that we are very confident that this is not a leak from within government. The PRESIDENT: Senator O'Neill, a supplementary question.