Senator SCULLION (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Affairs and Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:14): Can I say, absolutely clearly: there was no conversation between the minister and the Prime Minister about a cut because no cuts happened. No cuts happened. Every time— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Scullion, please resume your seat. Senator Wong, on a point of order? Senator Wong: The point of order is on direct relevance The primary question did not deal with any conversation with the minister and the Prime Minister; it dealt with a conversation between Minister Wyatt and a third party at a nursing home. That was clearly referenced. The question now—if the minister is denying the way it's been reported—as Senator Polley relevantly asked, is: what did Minister Wyatt actually say? The PRESIDENT: On the point of order, I believe the minister is being directly relevant to what Senator Polley said immediately prior to that and addressing the statement with respect to the funding levels—or the funding cut, as it was put. I believe the minister is being directly relevant and is entitled to do so at that part. I will listen very carefully to his— Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: No, Senator Wong, the preface to the question is something the minister is allowed to address. Senator Scullion, please continue. Senator SCULLION: Thank you, Mr President. I assume that those opposite had actually understood and been reading reports, but Mr Wyatt categorically denied that any such conversation took place. Irrespective of that, the notion around cuts that keep happening, there were no cuts. We have continued to invest in research. We've continue to invest in additional homecare places. We've continued to invest in residential care places. We've continued to invest in compliance. We believe that this is an investment that repays the fantastic investment that our eldest Australians have made in this nation.