Senator WHISH-WILSON (Tasmania) (14:13): My question is to the foreign minister, Senator Payne. As I understand it, you're the senior minister overseeing the work of Senator Ruston, who represented Australia at the International Whaling Commission meeting. Minister, there's still intense lobbying and negotiations going on at the IWC meeting in Brazil at the moment. Can you explain why Assistant Minister Ruston has returned from Brazil and is not at these meetings? Is it because you're confident— Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my right! Pause the clock! On my right: I'm asking for silence during questions. Please continue, Senator Whish-Wilson. Senator WHISH-WILSON: Thank you, Mr President. Is it because Australia is confident that we have the numbers so that the overturning of the moratorium banning whaling will not go ahead? Can you please update the chamber on what the situation in Brazil is at the moment in relation to the IWC vote?