Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister for Finance, Special Minister of State and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:21): Clearly, it's a long time since Senator Di Natale has been anywhere near a patient, because if he were still working as a GP he would know that under the coalition—and this is a matter of evidence, of data and of actual fact, not a matter of political hyperbole—bulk-billing rates for patients attending GPs are at record highs. Let me repeat that: under the coalition, as a result of our policies, bulk-billing rates for patients visiting their GP are at record highs. And bulk-billing rights, in case the good doctor has forgotten about it, mean no out-of-pocket costs. So I don't know what he's talking about, but clearly it has been a long time since he's worked as a doctor. The PRESIDENT: Senator Di Natale, a final supplementary question. Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my right during the questions!