Senator DI NATALE (Victoria—Leader of the Australian Greens) (14:52): Two of the few remaining climate programs that are left under this government's stewardship are the Greens initiated Clean Energy Finance Corporation and the Australian Renewable Energy Agency. Senator Ian Macdonald: Is this a speech or a question? The PRESIDENT: Senator Macdonald! Senator DI NATALE: I'm glad they're listening to your ruling, Mr President. The government has tried and failed to abolish them twice, and slashed half a billion dollars from their budgets—with Labor's help. Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Di Natale. Senator Macdonald, senators get 30 seconds to ask a supplementary question. I specifically ask for silence so that I can rule on points of order when they tend to come up. I will ask senators to remain silent during the asking of questions. Senator DI NATALE: Given that the government has tried and failed to abolish the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and the Australian Renewable Energy Agency, are your plans to reduce climate change spending— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Di Natale; the time for the question has expired. Senator Di Natale interjecting— The PRESIDENT: You did get your full 30 seconds; the clock was stopped when I was making my ruling. There are 30 seconds to ask a question. I call the minister to answer what was asked or asserted in the question.