Senator O'NEILL (New South Wales) (14:28): Does the minister agree with Dennis Shanahan when he says: … the biggest non-state school sector in Australia was facing a short-term funding cliff and a long-term loss under Education Minister Simon Birmingham's restructured school funding. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left—Senators Cameron and Carr on this occasion, and Senator Colbeck. We are at least going to commence the answer to the question with some silence.