Senator SCULLION (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Affairs and Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:35): I thank Senator Siewert for the question and acknowledge that she has been working very closely and positively with the government on this matter. We haven't announced something because we haven't got agreement with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, which I think is fundamental in these matters. We have been informally keeping the opposition and the Greens informed of where we're up to on this. We have formalised a consultation process. We've been working with the communities to come to this position. The next step is to ensure that the final stage of this goes out. The principles have been agreed to. Significant principles have been agreed to. Senator McAllister: With whom? Senator SCULLION: There are mutterings from the other side. I'll be making a submission to the Senate inquiry. A Senate committee has been inquiring into the previous iteration of this. I say to those interjecting that 60 per cent of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people deserted the system under those opposite. Our repairing of that and getting people back and engaged has ensured that more than 65 per cent of people now attend those activities. We will be going to a round of consultation. On the basis of that round of consultation, we won't be just rolling it out immediately. We've selected between six and eight sites to ensure that the change in the IT systems and the buy-in from those communities enable us to learn the lessons, so we don't do exactly what we did with the RJCP—introduce it in three months and have 60 per cent of people desert it. The PRESIDENT: Senator Siewert, a supplementary question.