Senator NASH (New South Wales—Deputy Leader of The Nationals, Minister for Regional Development, Minister for Local Government and Territories and Minister for Regional Communications) (14:02): I understand that Senator O'Sullivan has expressed publicly that he doesn't have nor ever has had an interest in a corporation or entity that has a direct or indirect pecuniary interest in an agreement with the Public Service of the Commonwealth of Australia. I would say that, if the opposition has in its possession— The PRESIDENT: Point of order, Senator Wong. Senator Wong: Mr President, the question went to— Senator Cormann interjecting— Senator Wong: Well, the answer is actually not directly relevant. The question— The PRESIDENT: Address your remarks to me, Senator Wong. Senator Wong: I apologise. I was being distracted by Senator Cormann. Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my right! Senator Wong: My point of order goes to direct relevance. This is the minister representing the relevant minister for the Commonwealth ruling out that Senator O'Sullivan has received financial benefit as a result of involvement in family companies gaining $6 million in Commonwealth contracts. It is not relevant to say that Senator O'Sullivan has said that. The question is to the minister representing the minister who has carriage of this substantial amount of money. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cormann, on the point of order. Senator Cormann: On the point of order, by mere virtue of the fact that Senator Nash was able to point out that there was no such interest, according to Senator O'Sullivan, clearly mere logic dictates that, if there is no benefit overall then there is no benefit in the specific. So the minister was clearly being directly relevant to the question. The PRESIDENT: In relation to the point of order, Senator Wong, I believe the minister was being directly relevant. Minister, you were interrupted. Had you concluded your answer or do you have more to offer? Senator NASH: I've concluded my answer. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Minister.