Senator GALLACHER (South Australia) (14:57): My question is to the Minister for Defence, Senator Payne. At the Senate committee hearing on Tuesday night, the interim CEO of DCNS, Brent Clark, said that ASC would have no role in building Future Submarines. Can the minister confirm that this is the case, despite DCNS proposing a range of options for ASC during the competitive evaluation process for the Australian Future Submarine project? If so, when did the government decide on an option that meant ASC would have no role in the build of Future Submarines, and why has the government withheld this information from South Australians?