Senator KAKOSCHKE-MOORE (South Australia) (14:24): Victims of rape and domestic violence need support from specialist counsellors immediately, and having to retell their story inflicts more trauma on the victim. Do you concede that requiring a victim of rape and domestic violence to first speak to an operator, who could be answering calls from their own home, and then be directed to a specialist rape and domestic violence trauma counsellor causes more harm?