Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Employment and Minister for Women) (14:37): I think most people in this place would recognise that internships have been a fantastic way of gaining experience in a workplace and they offer up a world of opportunity for those who have the opportunity to participate in them. If I look around here, I am sure many senators will put their hand up and say, 'I was able to undertake an internship and that's how I got my foot in the door.' Some may be surprised to note that, despite those opposite being opposed to the PaTH program—they are opposed to getting our youth out of welfare and into work—a number of Labor MPs and senators have themselves had numerous interns through their offices. In fact, no fewer than 44 interns have passed through the offices of Labor senators—that is all we know about—and approximately 150 have passed through the doors of the Labor Party. Senator Cormann interjecting— Senator CASH: How much do they get paid, Senator Cormann? In many cases, they do not. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Back, a final supplementary question.