Senator SINODINOS (New South Wales—Cabinet Secretary) (14:15): Mr President, in relation to the briefing of 1 February, is he referring to this minister or to the minister? Senator Kim Carr: To Minister Pyne. Minister Pyne—you represent him! Senator SINODINOS: Yes. But I was not present at any briefing on 1 February. Senator Wong: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. The PRESIDENT: The answer is concluded, Senator Wong. Senator Wong: The minister should take the question on notice. If questions in a representative capacity can simply be dismissed on the basis that the minister was not at a meeting then it really makes a mockery of question time. He should take it on notice. The PRESIDENT: The Cabinet Secretary has heard your point of order, Senator Wong, and I will leave it up to the Cabinet Secretary. Senator Sinodinos: I am happy to take it on notice. I was just simply making the point that I was not there.