Mr SWAN (Lilley—Deputy Prime Minister and Treasurer) (14:56): Once again, we have this incredible hypocrisy from those opposite. Mr Tony Smith interjecting— The DEPUTY SPEAKER ( Ms AE Burke ): The member for Casey is warned! Mr SWAN: These are the people who went out and said that carbon pricing would mean death for the Latrobe Valley—an incredibly irresponsible statement which shows just how far they will go and how desperate they will be to spread fear. Now they are saying that, somehow, because we did not proceed with the Contract for Closure we are wrong as well. We did not proceed with the Contract for Closure because we did not think it represented good value for money. That is why we did not proceed with it. But we do have in place our carbon price and we have our caps. We will meet our targets and we will do that in the least cost way. Mr Hunt: Madam Deputy Speaker, a point of order on relevance. The question was: is it the policy to open or close brown coal power stations? Mr Robb interjecting— The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member for Goldstein is going to be tossed very quickly, if he is not careful. Mr SWAN: The shadow minister is another one who has changed his position. Having written his thesis on a market price for carbon, he now comes in and says we should have one because we did not proceed with one or two other measures. Is that what he is saying now? This is further evidence that they will keep a carbon price.