Senator SINODINOS (New South Wales—Cabinet Secretary) (14:43): Water technology could potentially be a strong focus of interest, and I am, of course, someone who is very interested in recycling. Of course, much can be achieved outside of the FTA process. Drip irrigation technology originating in Israel has indeed— Senator Wong: Tell us about water holdings. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Pause the clock. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Let's come to order. Senator Cameron: Why didn't you tell him that you couldn't answer the question? The PRESIDENT: Senator Cameron! Senator Lines interjecting— The PRESIDENT: And Senator Lines. Cabinet Secretary. Senator SINODINOS: Thank you, Mr President. Such technology is a fine example of the benefits of innovation and invention. Israel is to be commended for the energy and effectiveness of its innovation and technology sector. Israel spends an OECD high of 4.2 per cent of GDP on R&D, has the third largest number of NASDAQ listings after the US and China—a remarkable feat for an economy of its size—and has one of the highest start-up densities in the world. In recent weeks, the Prime Minister, Mr Turnbull, has stated that innovation will, and must be, at the heart of public and private sector activity to drive future growth and prosperity. We have much to learn and share from Israel. That is why, as I mentioned earlier, Israel's chief scientist, Avi Hasson, is in Australia this week exchanging views and insights with Australian innovators— (Time expired)