Ms GILLARD (Lalor—Prime Minister) (14:03): BHP will make its investment decisions, as is proper. We have legislated carbon pricing so BHP, when it is making those decisions, can do it against a backdrop of certainty. Yes, amongst some sections of the business community, carbon pricing has been controversial, but overwhelmingly the thing that the business community has said to the government about carbon pricing is that it knew that, inevitably, a carbon price was coming. It had diagnosed that from the fact that both major political parties went to the 2007 election promising a carbon price. It had diagnosed that from the fact that— Mr Simpkins interjecting— The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member for Cowan is warned! Ms GILLARD: it was the policy of the government and that it was a policy supported by every living Liberal leader. The business community diagnosed that it was inevitable that there would be a carbon price. So, knowing that there would be a carbon price, its call was for certainty. We have given certainty. The Leader of the Opposition might want to turn his back on the facts and he might want to turn his back on reason, but in fact the uncertainty for BHP and Olympic Dam, the uncertainty for every business in this country, comes from the destructive negativity of the Leader of the Opposition and his reckless attempt to roll back every economic reform that makes sense for this country and that will build our prosperity—including the carbon tax. (Time expired)