Senator HANSON-YOUNG (South Australia) (14:21): Could Senator Abetz explain to us why Syrian families that have been torn apart by the conflict being punished for trying to reach Australia for protection? Senator Bernardi interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Di Natale on a point of order. Senator Di Natale: Mr President, I ask you to get Senator Bernardi to reflect on his comments and perhaps withdraw his implication that the Greens support ISIS. Senator Bernardi: Mr President, put simply, Senator Di Natale does not support a campaign against ISIS in Syria. The PRESIDENT: I do not want a debate, Senator Bernardi. Senator Bernardi, if you said something that you feel as though you should withdraw, I would appreciate your withdrawal. Senator Bernardi: I do not believe I should withdraw. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Bernardi. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong. Senator Wong: Mr President, you have asked him to withdraw. The PRESIDENT: I did not hear anything that was said, Senator Wong. Senator Wong: I heard very clearly. He said, 'You support ISIS. Why do you support ISIS?' He ought withdraw that. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! One at a time. Senator Wong has the call. There will be silence. Senator Wong: Mr President, people in this place will have differences of views on national security. I do not share the views of the Greens on national security, but that accusation ought not be allowed to stand in this place. Senator Bernardi: Mr President, I will make it easy for you, I will withdraw. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Bernardi. Senator Di Natale, a second point of order. Senator Di Natale: A second point of order, Mr President. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Di Natale, is this a fresh point of order because I have ruled on the previous one? Senator Di Natale: Yes. The PRESIDENT: Senator Di Natale. Senator Di Natale: I would also ask Senator Canavan to withdraw his assertion that the Greens also support ISIS. The PRESIDENT: Senator Canavan. Senator Canavan: I do not believe I have said anything unparliamentary and I have nothing to withdraw. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Canavan. Senator Macdonald on a point of order. Senator Ian Macdonald: Mr President, I have a point of order too. The question suggested, or in fact said, that Senator Abetz personally punished some immigrant groups. I ask that the person who asked the question withdraw that part of the question and that accusation against Senator Abetz, which is clearly wrong. The PRESIDENT: In relation to these points of order, Senator Bernardi had the good grace to withdraw. I will go back and reflect on whether that is unparliamentary. I think we are now getting to the stage where we are starting to rule out everything. I will not ask Senator Hanson-Young to withdraw. I invite the minister to answer the question. Minister.