Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:05): Can I say to the honourable senator that not even the ACTU submission or indeed the CFMEU submission before Mr Heydon suggested bias. They specifically rejected bias; all they argued was 'apprehended bias'. For Senator Conroy to come into this place and seek to mislead is yet again indicative that there is no length the Labor Party will not go to try to protect the corrupt trade union elements. For the benefit of all honourable senators I point out that, in his submissions on allegations against Kathy Jackson, counsel assisting concluded that the matters: … raise serious governance issues at the Victoria No 3 Branch, during the period Ms Jackson was Secretary. It is difficult to imagine a more inappropriate series— (Time expired) Senator Conroy: Heydon protected the crook. Senator Edwards interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Conroy and Senator Edwards. Order! Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Macdonald. Senator Conroy: You've got a crook— The PRESIDENT: Senator Conroy! Order! Senator Cameron interjecting— The PRESIDENT: And Senator Cameron. Senator Back, your question.