Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate, Vice-President of the Executive Council, Minister for Arts and Attorney-General) (14:22): Senator Hanson-Young, without accepting any of the absurd assertions you make and the false premises of your question, perhaps that is a point you may care to make in the parliamentary debate. But we are of the view that the measures this government has implemented to stop the flood of illegal immigrants, to stop the drownings at sea—more than 1,100 people who lost their lives as a result of policies that you— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock! Point of order, Senator Whish-Wilson? Senator Whish-Wilson: Mr President, on a point of order: I wanted to draw attention to the word 'illegal'. It is not illegal to seek asylum. The PRESIDENT: No, that is not a point of order, Senator Whish-Wilson, that is a debating point. Senator BRANDIS: Senator Whish-Wilson, that is not the legal advice of the Australian government. Senator Hanson-Young, as I said to you a moment ago, under policies that you supported, nearly 50,000 people came to Australia illegally. Eight hundred and twelve asylum-seeker vessels came to Australia illegally. More than 1,100 men, women and children drowned at sea. And we stopped it.