Senator KIM CARR (Victoria) (14:04): Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. Over the last two years we have seen 610 jobs at Forgacs in Newcastle and hundreds of jobs lost in Williamstown. One of the workers who lost his job is Ben Horan, who is in the visitors gallery today. Can the minister explain to Mr Horan and the other workers in Newcastle and Williamstown why the Prime Minister thinks his job is more important than theirs?