Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Assistant Minister for Education and Training) (14:47): We make no apologies for the fact that we are consulting with crossbenchers to address concerns they have, which are reflected from communities that they represent, as well as concerns that senators on this side have, like Senator Back. No apologies for that. No deal has been done though, Senator. If you care about the future of the renewable energy sector then what you would be doing is supporting the opposition and the government in making sure we give certainty to the Renewable Energy Target, that we make the adjustments to the renewable energy legislation that is before this chamber, that we give them the certainty to be able to achieve the 20 per cent target that we are legislating for through this chamber at present, which will deliver 23 per cent of renewable energy by 2020. That is what the government are legislating for. We have the legislation before this Senate. You are trying to oppose it and block it. We want to get on and make sure we deliver on that policy, on that commitment. (Time expired) Senator Waters: Mr President, I seek your indulgence as we would like your ruling on whether the minister has actually misled the chamber in the course of his answers today. The PRESIDENT: Senator, that is not something for me to determine at this point in time, and I believe the minister has been answering the question correctly. I see no infringement of the standing orders whatsoever. Do you have a further point of order, Senator Waters? Senator Waters: Yes, Mr President, we are seeking for you to check the Hansard and try to establish whether the minister has in fact deeply misled the chamber. The PRESIDENT: I think you are now casting an aspersion on the minister, Senator Waters. I do not believe the minister has been out of order at all, and I do not believe there is any need for me to check the Hansard. You are establishing a debating point on a question you have asked. The minister has answered the question in accordance with the standing orders. If I need to come back to the chamber with anything other than what I have just said, I will do so in the future.