Senator RONALDSON (Victoria—Minister for Veterans' Affairs, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Centenary of ANZAC and Special Minister of State) (14:52): Of course, Senator Carr will not refer to the $1.82 million to secure the operation of vital scientific assets and he will not talk about the government investing a further $12 million to improve the focus on the STEM subjects that he was referring to. When he talks about cuts, why doesn't he talk about the increase in STEM funding? Why doesn't he talk about the $3 billion for CSIRO? Senator Carr has shown his extraordinary ignorance again in relation to this matter: science, technology, engineering and mathematics are, indeed, STEM. I mean, talk about cuts—I will table a document which refers to the cuts under the Australian Labor Party when Senator Carr was the minister.