Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Assistant Minister for Education and Training) (14:55): Indeed, participants are incredibly positive about the experience they are getting through the Green Army Programme. A number have been talking to media outlets, extolling the virtues of the Green Army Programme, such as Jared Marsden, an 18-year-old from Mackay, who told the Daily Mercury: I couldn't spend the whole day in an office …With this opportunity, I get to help the planet and learn practical skills at the same time. Jade from the Barossa Valley, speaking to ABC News, said, 'I've always wanted a career in conservation'— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! Senator BIRMINGHAM: I am sorry, Mr President, that those opposite do not seem to care about the young people in this program and do not seem to take these opportunities seriously. Jade said, 'I've always'— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: On my left! Pause the clock. On my left! Senator Cameron! Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: And my right! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on both sides! Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: On my right! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Minister. Senator BIRMINGHAM: Thank you, Mr President. Jade of the Barossa Valley said: … this has been a great experience … I'm doing what I love, and if I wake up every day, going somewhere where I love going, I'm not fussed about the money at all. (Time expired)