Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Human Services) (15:02): I do thank Senator Ruston for that question, which we did have an opportunity to canvass briefly in the estimates process. The government is considering a business case to replace the current system. We have made an enormous amount of progress with a suite of digital apps and with online services, but it is a difficult process and the current system no longer meets the expectations of customers. If we had an appropriately modern ICT system that would definitely improve service delivery, it would remove the ongoing cost to taxpayers— Opposition senators interjecting— Senator PAYNE: which some of us care about—not those opposite, obviously—and it would also increase ability to implement reforms. We would ensure that our welfare system as it stands is able to interact properly and seamlessly with other Commonwealth government departments—which, of course, my colleagues have every right to expect in 2015 and in the years going forward. It would reduce the red-tape burden on customers, on staff and on other government agencies. (Time expired) Senator Abetz: Mr President, I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.